Comments on: Real Creativity Occurs in a Box, Not Outside It http://thelostjacket.com/marketing/real-creativity-occurs-box Community, Creativity and Marketing Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:05:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MysterBaad http://thelostjacket.com/marketing/real-creativity-occurs-box/comment-page-1#comment-3827 MysterBaad Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:24:18 +0000 http://thelostjacket.com/?p=5254#comment-3827 Excellent point, Jamie. There is a certain quiet trend to say "Think inside the box or you accomplish nothing." Creative people - rightly, I think - suspect this as a rear guard action by noncreative, status quo types to keep the creatives "down" in teams and organizations. That sentiment rises dramatically in times like these when money is tight and business is scarce: don't just understand tradition and SOP, but pay them full honor and respect by reining in innovative ideas. It loses money as often as any other way of doing things, but it makes more people feel secure. The creative person, in such times, has to be very careful and diplomatic indeed - perhaps even disguise hi/r ideas as an improvement on tradition, not an ababdonment of it. It's certainly no time for bright people to just streak their own way across the sky - they'll only be shot at. Creatives might want to read George Lakoff on "framing" - it's about politics, but isn't all work politics? Excellent point, Jamie.
There is a certain quiet trend to say “Think inside the box or you accomplish nothing.” Creative people – rightly, I think – suspect this as a rear guard action by noncreative, status quo types to keep the creatives “down” in teams and organizations.
That sentiment rises dramatically in times like these when money is tight and business is scarce: don’t just understand tradition and SOP, but pay them full honor and respect by reining in innovative ideas.
It loses money as often as any other way of doing things, but it makes more people feel secure.
The creative person, in such times, has to be very careful and diplomatic indeed – perhaps even disguise hi/r ideas as an improvement on tradition, not an ababdonment of it. It’s certainly no time for bright people to just streak their own way across the sky – they’ll only be shot at.
Creatives might want to read George Lakoff on “framing” – it’s about politics, but isn’t all work politics?

]]> By: Jamie Favreau http://thelostjacket.com/marketing/real-creativity-occurs-box/comment-page-1#comment-3391 Jamie Favreau Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:56:55 +0000 http://thelostjacket.com/?p=5254#comment-3391 I saw David Meerman Scott's interview with Seth Godin and he states real creativity happens at the edges of the box. You don't have any resistance outside the box and if you settle for the middle well nothing really happens. If you take the lead and test the waters than when you push against the edges the most creativity happens. Here is the link... http://bit.ly/53Nag2<br /><br />I totally agree with you about how things have changed. I would rather sit in on a #journchat than watch the CBS comedies and Men of a Certain Age. The DVR made me realize I can watch them when I want to and when it is best for me with out the commercials. But the thing I know I do is share and share more!! <br /><br />There is still a place for traditional media because older people do not jump online and do not see the Internet as we do. I mean I have been online since 97 when I met my first love via a Yahoo IM. There needs to be a way to balance everything but only time will do that. I saw David Meerman Scott's interview with Seth Godin and he states real creativity happens at the edges of the box. You don't have any resistance outside the box and if you settle for the middle well nothing really happens. If you take the lead and test the waters than when you push against the edges the most creativity happens. Here is the link… http://bit.ly/53Nag2

I totally agree with you about how things have changed. I would rather sit in on a #journchat than watch the CBS comedies and Men of a Certain Age. The DVR made me realize I can watch them when I want to and when it is best for me with out the commercials. But the thing I know I do is share and share more!!

There is still a place for traditional media because older people do not jump online and do not see the Internet as we do. I mean I have been online since 97 when I met my first love via a Yahoo IM. There needs to be a way to balance everything but only time will do that.

]]> By: Jamie Favreau http://thelostjacket.com/marketing/real-creativity-occurs-box/comment-page-1#comment-3336 Jamie Favreau Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:56:55 +0000 http://thelostjacket.com/?p=5254#comment-3336 I saw David Meerman Scott's interview with Seth Godin and he states real creativity happens at the edges of the box. You don't have any resistance outside the box and if you settle for the middle well nothing really happens. If you take the lead and test the waters than when you push against the edges the most creativity happens. Here is the link... http://bit.ly/53Nag2<br /><br />I totally agree with you about how things have changed. I would rather sit in on a #journchat than watch the CBS comedies and Men of a Certain Age. The DVR made me realize I can watch them when I want to and when it is best for me with out the commercials. But the thing I know I do is share and share more!! <br /><br />There is still a place for traditional media because older people do not jump online and do not see the Internet as we do. I mean I have been online since 97 when I met my first love via a Yahoo IM. There needs to be a way to balance everything but only time will do that. I saw David Meerman Scott's interview with Seth Godin and he states real creativity happens at the edges of the box. You don't have any resistance outside the box and if you settle for the middle well nothing really happens. If you take the lead and test the waters than when you push against the edges the most creativity happens. Here is the link… http://bit.ly/53Nag2

I totally agree with you about how things have changed. I would rather sit in on a #journchat than watch the CBS comedies and Men of a Certain Age. The DVR made me realize I can watch them when I want to and when it is best for me with out the commercials. But the thing I know I do is share and share more!!

There is still a place for traditional media because older people do not jump online and do not see the Internet as we do. I mean I have been online since 97 when I met my first love via a Yahoo IM. There needs to be a way to balance everything but only time will do that.

]]> By: stephenspiewak http://thelostjacket.com/marketing/real-creativity-occurs-box/comment-page-1#comment-3118 stephenspiewak Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:11:35 +0000 http://thelostjacket.com/?p=5254#comment-3118 Really enjoyed this post, Stuart. It's particularly relevant to me as I try to figure out how HS kids communicate and consume/exchange information and ideas. I agree that "the world has changed" but I think you might be better off saying that the world continues to change. I think the real out of the box thinkers will not only identify future patterns of change before others do, but, to your point, also act and utilize those creative thoughts within limitations.<br><br>What I'm curious about is how individuals, small businesses, or even large businesses can remain best suited to act on those ideas? What traits/practices can keep us open and flexible change? How can we expand our boundaries/limits to allow more room to adapt? Really enjoyed this post, Stuart. It's particularly relevant to me as I try to figure out how HS kids communicate and consume/exchange information and ideas. I agree that “the world has changed” but I think you might be better off saying that the world continues to change. I think the real out of the box thinkers will not only identify future patterns of change before others do, but, to your point, also act and utilize those creative thoughts within limitations.

What I'm curious about is how individuals, small businesses, or even large businesses can remain best suited to act on those ideas? What traits/practices can keep us open and flexible change? How can we expand our boundaries/limits to allow more room to adapt?

]]> By: Stuart Foster http://thelostjacket.com/marketing/real-creativity-occurs-box/comment-page-1#comment-3117 Stuart Foster Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:50:51 +0000 http://thelostjacket.com/?p=5254#comment-3117 I think that we still need to take that approach...but be grounded in our thinking at the same time. What's the point of coming up with an awesome unbuildable thing? I think that we still need to take that approach…but be grounded in our thinking at the same time. What's the point of coming up with an awesome unbuildable thing?

]]> By: David Spinks http://thelostjacket.com/marketing/real-creativity-occurs-box/comment-page-1#comment-3116 David Spinks Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:26:54 +0000 http://thelostjacket.com/?p=5254#comment-3116 Truth...the real talented creatives will be able to make something happen with the limitations provided. The out of the box thinking, however, is what allows the creatives to approach a problem from a unique angle, that no one else sees.<br><br>David<br>Community Manager, <a href="http://Scribnia.com" rel="nofollow">Scribnia.com</a> Truth…the real talented creatives will be able to make something happen with the limitations provided. The out of the box thinking, however, is what allows the creatives to approach a problem from a unique angle, that no one else sees.

David
Community Manager, Scribnia.com

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